First, the form letter:
Dear Vice Chair Stevens,
Thank you for working to ensure that Loudoun County Public Schools remain among the best in the nation.
I am concerned that the current system for new school site selection is flawed, leading to overpriced, poorly sited locations that don't meet the goals of the Comprehensive Plan for neighborhood schools. It doesn't make sense for Loudoun taxpayers to continue footing an unnecessarily high bill for these new schools, and for our kids to keep suffering boundary changes. With so many new schools needing to be built, I urge you to closely examine the process and find ways to reform the process.
Sincerely,
And now my response:
Thank you for your letter of concern regarding the school site selection process. Together with my colleagues it is my responsibility to ensure that LCPS conducts all of its operations with utmost efficiency while ensuring the best education possible for the children of Loudoun County given the resources available. The school site selection process is an important part of that responsibility and occupies a considerable amount of the time that we spend representing our community and neighbors.
The best opportunities for improvement in the land acquisition process involve improved cooperation with the Board of Supervisors. According to a recent year-long efficiency review of LCPS conducted by outside experts, the single largest opportunity for savings involves changes to the County's process for approving school properties. We are working diligently with our counterparts on that board to implement those changes.
Many school sites in the past have been proffered by developers. As fewer planned developments are approved, purchase of land becomes more frequent. The site selection process operates inside a staggeringly complex arena of government regulations (Federal, State and Local), zoning considerations, fiscal constraints and the free market. Few available parcels are large enough, fewer still have willing sellers and only a small subset of these meet the geological, topographical, location, and transportation requirements to support a school for the next 75 years.
To navigate these intricate and often conflicting obstacles LCPS has hired a staff of truly exceptional planning professionals who operate under the guidance of the School Board and in close cooperation with the Loudoun County Government planning staff. This team has managed the astonishing growth that Loudoun has experienced over the past 15 years without increasing class sizes by consistently delivering new schools on time, under budget, with the highest quality and lower cost than any school district in the state of Virginia. (As a bonus each school is built with even more energy efficiency than the ones before it!)As a parent subject to the boundary process that accompanies the opening of a new school, I know it is often very difficult for families, and so even though the current LCPS practices have done well over time it is subject to continuous review and adjustment by the School Board.
It would be wonderful if we could name our own price for a parcel of land once identified, and I know that we would be fair to the landowners in doing so. Unfortunately we must negotiate for a mutually agreeable price. These negotiations are based on a number of factors, chief among them are professional appraisals provided by the most experienced appraisers in the area and under contract to LCPS. This is an important independent check on our internal processes and verification of the true market value of a property. At the Board's direction LCPS has terminated negotiations or initiated condemnation proceedings with a number of landowners just in my short time as a member because their asking price was above and beyond the appraised value of the land.
There is a tremendous amount of conflicting information regarding two recently contracted properties, commonly referred to as the Lenah and Rouse parcels. I have done my best to contribute unvarnished information about these to all of my neighbors in Loudoun through my blog, Our Loudoun Schools (at www.LoudounSchools.org), because this is your government and its dealings and the decisions of your representatives should be transparent to you. If there is additional information that I can share, particular questions that I can answer or specific opportunities for improvement that you can provide then I hope you will call or write to me again.
Until I hear from you again or we see each other in person, I again thank you for taking the time to write and for your interest and concern.
~John
Tomorrow I'll provide links where you can find original data on the Lenah property.
Based on the SPEX package, it looks like ALOT of information remains undetermined. What is the final road improvement plan, how much is it costing, who is going to fund it(looks like the County is potentially on the hook for millions) and WHEN are they going to be built - when the 350th house or 500th child enters the school system?) What is LCPS' plan to protect the existing homeowner's wells from contamination or loss?No plan exists in the SPEX - just promise of a plan. So much is left to be decided AFTER the SPEX process is over - but why? How could so much have been spent and so much remain undetermined? The reason I can't find the information is because no one has compiled exactly how much will it REALLY cost to finish all the work to get this school constructed AND maintain the facility including transporting the kids there? If you haven't done that and the same analysis for one of the now TWO (Lambert and Meter?) new sites much closer to the population, how can you ask the public to comment on your "Plan". Especially when so much of the "Plan" remains undeveloped. I see no valid reason to say how bad you need a middle school at Lenah until all the schools in the same radius of the South Riding population AND Freedom seats are overfilled a fraction as much as you have done in western Loudoun. Your new plan to provide INEQUITABLE education opportunities to western Loudoun children (only 11th and 12th graders get a high school experience) shows that when you finally get around to making a plan, it stinks! Make a firm plan for Lenah first and THEN come back and ask the public (and the Planning Commission and Supervisors) to weigh in on it. John, do your homework (and show your work) before you expect the teacher to give you a grade!
ReplyDeleteWhen you posted about the efficiency study a few weeks ago, I asked a few questions that haven't been answered yet. Since both you and Chairman DuPree bring this topic up again (and Chairmain DuPree has elevated the study to an audit), I would appreciate your response:
ReplyDeleteThe single largest cost savings in the entire report seems to have been taken directly from staff estimates, with absolutely no scrutiny or review.
How does Loudoun's acquisition methods and costs compare with those of its peer jurisdictions? Isn't that a critical part of the methodology of this report?
Ms. Stinger...it sure is nice to be on the same side again!!
ReplyDeleteI concur. I just saw the letter regarding the Van Metre Properties, and I've got to wonder what Lenah/Greenvest has on these boys?
I've seen an awful lot of info moved, people intimidated in what they would reveal to me(that should be public knowledge)and a huge fudge factor on side-by-side comparisons of Lenah and Lambert.
Sarah, read the conditions of approval. There is a well monitoring plan for the irrigation well. The pipes have been laid in so that connecting Lenah Run to utilities is possible should the runoff from the sports field contaminate the communities' groundwater, or should the well suck it dry.
ReplyDeleteMeaning the taxpayers will be correcting a deficiency in a by-right community that has had water issues from about day 1.
Same thing with the road: outfall from Lenah Run (also a by right issue) will be corrected through the school application.
Really disturbing that your stated mission is to have every kid in the county in bad conditions.
If the driver is really fiscal responsibility in an inequitable system, do ask for the cost per seat by school: The Aldie attendance zone features some prominent Lenah protesters (you may be on the same mailing lists) whose children have tiny class sizes, and cost thousands of dollars more per seat than anyone in Valley or Freedom.
Why not eliminate the inequity (and inequitable costs) of the private system within the public one before asking that the every kid in the system be treated as badly as the Valley cluster?
Do you know how long it would take to get Aldie elementary as crowded? The current kindergartners would be at their 75th reunion.
Barbara Munsey
Dean, the Stone Ridge property has already been declined by the schools, at least on the middle school site.
ReplyDeleteThe powerline marking the old Western Bypass runs the length of the property (much bigger line than the W&OD), and each side is framed by two major gas pipelines, one natural, and one liquified natural.
A site farther down the same line was deemed unacceptable by some of the same protesters for the new Arcola school.
But it would be A-OK now as long as it kills Lenah?
The letter? A county letter, or more PR/direct mail marketing?
Barbara Munsey
Dan & Sarah, I share the decisions and documents on which I base my decisions on this blog with you. While more information is never unhelpful, I believe that I have enough to make an informed decision. You're free to disagree with that and I encourage you to continue challenging me.
ReplyDeleteDan, I went back and read your original question and realized it was about the MGT Efficiency Report and not the property matters in this post. I think we're crossing our wires here. The Efficiency Report compared everything it studied to peer jurisdictions. I provided links, I'd encourage you to read the report itself. We just got it less than 30 days ago, we haven't had a real chance to fully digest what it says, much less expand on its research or delve into its conclusions. Please read through it and let me know what you think.
ReplyDeleteNo sense challenging you if you're unwilling to respond.
ReplyDeleteIt would be about as useful as hiring someone to do an audit without expecting them to verify the numbers.
Sorry... we crossed posts.
ReplyDeleteI did download and read the full report. That is why I posted.
There is absolutely no mention of peer jurisdictions in section 5-2.
I appreciate you pointing that out and specifying the section. I'll read the section again with that in mind and submit that question to the company that performed the study. I'll make another post for their response, stay tuned.
ReplyDeleteMs. Munsey,
ReplyDeleteI would never wish Loudoun Valley situation on ANYONE. For you to say that proves you don't get it. My point is DR. Hatrick said conditions at Valley won't be critical until 2010. If that is the case, LCPS just needs to apply their criteria consistently. LCPS has chosen to not pursue a Plan B for Fields Farm and appear to be waiting with fingers crossed for the Supreme Court decision. They could have made a reasonable offer in 2006 and have had an interim solution (HS-10) open next year in 2009 but they chose to defend their decision all the way to the Supreme Court so here we are. Can you honestly say a few months to look critically AND OBJECTIVELY at these two new sites in Dulles is really going to make that much difference? If what Monk says is correct (extreme bias being applied), even more reason to push back.
By the way John, didn't see who was the 5 and who was the 4 on the HS-5 name vote last night. We were cheering for the naming committee getting the Board's respect by Tuscarora selection. If you were part of the 5, thanks are in order!
Ms. Stinger, it appears to be exactly what you said, not only here, but elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteThe reply from Living in Loco cut and pasted does not completely refute the other posts.
Barbara Munsey.
Sarah, be sure to send your thanks to Mr. DuPree, Mr. Geurin, Mr. Ohneiser, Dr. Guzman and Ms. Bergel. They were the five ayes.
ReplyDeleteThe west just wants a fraction of the urgency clearly being applied in the Dulles district to be given to our children - that is all. Western kids work very very hard too and are also very deserving of respect and attention from LCPS. Yet all they get are words in a memo posted last year on a website. Again, EMPATHY goes to Dulles student situation...we just want similar treatment. Years ago, the SB put all their eggs in the Fields Farm basket and that was a HUGE mistake. Don't you think Dulles kids deserve a Plan B or C, or both?
ReplyDeleteSarah, the school board was basically presented with a fait accompli by the 99 Board of Supervisors.
ReplyDeleteThey bought Shellhorn and Fields without consulting Purcellville, Leesburg, or the School Board.
The ensuing messes are the perenially delayed western school and the perenially delayed Bolen Park, and both hinge to a large degree on water.
My personal opinion is that isn't an accident.
The agencies affected by those backroom purchases have the huge issue of the fact that county owned land is sitting there waiting to use (and not on the tax rolls since purchase), and undevelopable as anything other than a county project unless sold.
The situation has been dire in the west for 10 years or more, and unfortunately a lot of people didn't want to face it.
Harmony was supposed to be a temporary solution, not the first of several stopgaps.
Add in that EVERY alternative site has been the subject of conflict (either court cases, uses, or organized irate neighbors) and nothing has moved forward but the biggest lawsuit of all.
None of it gets the schools built.
Everyone deserves a plan b and more. We are going to need more schools and so are you.
I think it is a good idea to shop (and purchase) sites now for the next schools needed.
I don't think the current SPEX should be derailed.
Barbara Munsey
Agree on most points - let's have a beer and talk about collective basis of our conspiracy theories. Sadly, ~18 months ago a Task Force was created, comprised of ALL the Stakeholders including school board members and their hand-picked appointee. They met every month and hashed out many issues. Yet LCPS refuses to discuss, much less implement, the numerous alternatives brought forward by that group. Similarly, BOS has set our children's needs aside to wait for a judge. Task Force now seems like such a waste of time accomplishing no actions. Leasing vacant space down the street is looking better all the time!
ReplyDeleteSorry we have to go on about western issues on this blog string but I'm sure John doesn't want to open up a can of worms and dedicate a new one to discuss the needs and concerns of his collegues' constituents.
Sarah, how about a cup of coffee or tea instead? :)
ReplyDeleteBarbara Munsey